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Old Dec 09, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27   #181
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The only thing I find weird about it, is the buffs.

If level 10 characters want to go to Eye of the North, feel free to try! All levels welcome!

That would be the same issue as getting a run to Droks, and then run around as a level 10 in South Shiverpeaks. OR going back, with your maximum armor and continue from Beacon's, where you left.

But with the Buffs we get to go to the Eye, it seems like a insta-powerlevel at Beacon's.

The buff is what's wrong with this, in my opinion. Not the fact level-10's can get to the Eye.

It actually might be challenging getting to the Eye as a level 10, on your own, and withOUT the buffs. But with them? No.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #182
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Anet has to make money, and if they can't make money off their product because no additional content or new options aren't being made, no sells. They have the free to play option available because that alone attracts customers, but to keep it going strong, they need to do things like this. Honestly, I really don't care because the only way to make a lame player any good, is to let them have practice. Team up with them, and show them the ropes instead of complaining.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #183
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I love it. Gave me a reason to play all my low lvl mule chars, must get Ursan Blessing and pwn when I get back to the starter islands.

Funniest thing so far is my Mesmer with attributes 12/9/9/9 making my starter skill bar work very nicely, a very strange but welcome bonus. I feel so leet lol .

Can`t wait to try out a multi talented ele.

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Old Dec 09, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #184
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This is just a way for people buying the platinum edition to experience the GWEN stuff a bit more quickly. Personally, I thought prophecies was too drawn out, and if that's the only campaign I had, I'd welcome a way to get through some of the more annoying parts a bit more quickly.

The only thing I would have done differently would be to *not* give out the extra attribute points as much as they have. Instead, I would have allowed you to set 1 attribute to 12, and called it a day.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46   #185
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It was released as high level content. Allowing level 10's in completely defeats that purpose. I agree with freekedoutfish.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00   #186
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it still is "high level content" its just that low levels get buffed to spec.

classic Anet fix and example of how they twist their way through things they said previously. Dont get me wrong i have nothing against it, but its annoying when someone repeatedly tells you such and such thing is impossible or/and that its just not going to happen and then they turn round and do it anyways.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47   #187
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It was released as high level content. Allowing level 10's in completely defeats that purpose.
Ummm... isn't the purpose to have fun? If people were getting bored dragging their new toons through Istan *again*, then this is just a nice diversion for those that want it.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #188
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...in response to the topic, I'd say my view on it is "So f**king what?"

GW:EN was released as high-level content, yes, but if you're enjoying it with your high level characters, who gives a s**t if some level 10 is in GW:EN? Making something out of nothing, yeesh.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02   #189
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el oh el pee vee eee! But, aren't thos lvl10's buffed to lvl20 style? So it doesn't really matter does it?
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04   #190
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well i dont mind..i just took my level 10 ele from NF over and several hours later i have most of EoN primary done gained most heros and am now level 20 with a couple of elites under my belt..

one thing i have noticed though...is in towns and outposts..low levels wanting a run..eg in EoN outpost someone spams looking for runner to Gunnar...i say take h/h..he says have tried but keeps dying.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06   #191
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el oh el pee vee eee! But, aren't thos lvl10's buffed to lvl20 style? So it doesn't really matter does it?
your attributes are capped till you reach level 20

max in any line is 12...if i recall rightly
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57   #192
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I think that the buffs should be removed, lvl10's should be able to feel free to try to come and do EotN, but there is no way they should get buffs just because they are lower level. I guess the idea of EotN being 'high-end' content has really gone out the window now...
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 01:18 PM // 13:18   #193
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doesnt bother me the more the merrier, wont affect my gameplay and maybe more will buy gwen when they can get into it.

its not too difficult gettign to level 20 unless you are prophicies character and nice for them to get there
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24   #194
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I thought EOTN was supposed to be the "elite" section of the game, hence all the dungeons and the fact that you had to be level 20 to enter.
Now a level 10 character can enter and they get buffed so that they can play in here.

What they did was go back on their word.. again.

Is nobody a little ticked off at this? That new character you made and grinded to get to level 20 in order to into eotn was a waist of time. Now some scrub can get power leveled to 10 and go in. Where is the fairness in this? (and no, this didn't happen to me)

This is as fair as making it that you can start a brand new character in eotn at level 20 with the 30 attribute points. We paid for new content geared for level 20.

Thoughts anyone...
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42   #195
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I think we have have several characters... so what is the problem starting a little earlier in EoTN? I like the idea personally, my lvl 19 ranger was denied entrance to EoTN when it first came out.... he was 1 lvl off.... Anyways, if they have the skill to do the missions well, i don't see why not! Besides when did lvl ever play a big issue... this isn't WoW, lvl is so easy to obtain.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45   #196
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I thought EOTN was supposed to be the "elite" section of the game, hence all the dungeons and the fact that you had to be level 20 to enter.
Now a level 10 character can enter and they get buffed so that they can play in here.
You thought wrong.

It was set at lv 20 to obviate the need of a 'newbie' island, it wasnt created as an 'elite' expansion.
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00   #197
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It's still meant for lvl20s. Are you telling me a lvl10 without the buff can survive?
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #198
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lvl 20 ≠ elite
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14   #199
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If this was WoW, you'd have a point, but GW was advertised as grind-free..no level grind ftw eh? now they can start title grind
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Old Dec 09, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19   #200
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Is nobody a little ticked off at this?
I'm ticked off a LOT at people who biatch at every tiny detail. What exactly is the problem of non lvl20's in GWEN? If you don't want to party with non lvl20 then DONT. If someone wants to play as non lvl20 then WHY WOULD YOU CARE?


It's absolutely disgusting how many people want to have their own private sandbox. I thought people around me leave much to be desired when it comes to personal qualities, but when I see people in MMOs I thank God for people around me IRL.

Eric Cartman syndrome needs to DIE. For those who don't know what it means, it's a "all for me none for you" and "looking down on others and feeling good because they don't have what you do, nya nya nya".

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That new character you made and grinded to (...). Where is the fairness in this?
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"This is the world," he thinks,"there is no other";
thus he falls again and again under my sway.

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(Yama = Vedic god of Death and Justice)

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